Tuesday, April 15, 2025

Simple comparison: scholars vs prophets

In the pursuit of clarity, charity and understanding, and in the spirit of no more contention, the table below compares two alternative approaches to the Cumorah question.

The purpose is to simplify and clarify the differences while: 

(i) assuming all parties are acting in good faith and 

(ii) seeking understanding of both sides with no contention about "who is correct." 

“All parties should strive to avoid contention on these matters.” 

Cumorah: prophets vs scholars

Prophets

M2C Scholars

New York Cumorah

M2C (Mesoamerican/two-Cumorah’s theory that puts Cumorah in Mexico)

Basic premise

Basic premise: Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, their contemporaries and their successors in Church leadership told the truth about Cumorah/Ramah in New York.

Basic premise: Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, their contemporaries and their successors in Church leadership did not tell the truth about Cumorah but instead were merely speculating because a few RLDS and LDS scholars have figured out that the “real” Cumorah must be in Mexico to make their maps of the Book of Mormon fit.

Specific examples

Moroni called the hill Cumorah during his first visit to Joseph Smith

Joseph Smith, Lucy Mack Smith, and Oliver Cowdery were all wrong

Joseph referred to the hill as Cumorah even before he translated the plates

Lucy Mack Smith was wrong

The messenger took the abridged plates from Harmony to Cumorah

David Whitmer was wrong

Joseph and Oliver visited the repository in Cumorah multiple times

Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer, Brigham Young, Wilford Woodruff, Heber C. Kimball were all wrong

Joseph’s contemporaries and successors in Church leadership, including members of the First Presidency speaking in General Conference, reaffirmed that Cumorah is in New York

They were all wrong.

Who discusses which approach (with no more contention)

Ordinary Latter-day Saints who accept the teachings of the prophets have taught and who confirm their bias by assessing the extrinsic evidence that supports and corroborates the teachings of the prophets and Cumorah/Ramah in New York. Often referred to as “Heartlanders.”

Scholars in legacy organizations such as FAIRLDS, Interpreter, FARMS, BMAF, Book of Mormon Central, etc., all of whom reject the teachings of the prophets and confirm their bias by interpreting the Book of Mormon to fit in a Mesoamerican setting. Often referred to as “M2Cers.”


The references are available here:

https://www.mobom.org/church-history-issues