Wednesday, September 17, 2025

Countdown to Cumorah - Sept 17 - What if Oliver Told the Truth?

What if Oliver Cowdery told the truth?

It is easy to understand why most of the world does not believe that Oliver told the truth. 

If Oliver told the truth, then 

(i) Jesus Christ restored the gospel and established a church through a modern prophet with 

(ii) modern revelation,

(iii) additional ancient records that testify of Christ, 

(iv) Priesthood authority and ordinances, etc. 

That all means alternative beliefs are incorrect. 

Few people can accept that their own religious beliefs are incorrect. Therefore, they have to conclude that Oliver did not tell the truth.

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It is less easy to understand why so many Latter-day Saint scholars (and their followers) do not believe that Oliver told the truth. Basically it is the same problem as the rest of the world has with Oliver Cowdery's testimony.

If Oliver told the truth, then 

(i) Joseph Smith translated the plates by means of the Urim and Thummim that came with the plates and

(ii) the hill Cumorah/Ramah is in New York.

That all means alternative beliefs are incorrect. 

Few Latter-day Saints can accept that their own beliefs about the origin and setting of the Book of Mormon are incorrect. Therefore, (if they follow the LDS scholars who teach that Oliver either intentionally or ignorantly misled everyone about the origin (SITH) and setting (M2C) of the Book of Mormon) they have to conclude that Oliver did not tell the truth.

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If Oliver did not tell the truth, then people can ignore what he said. But what if Oliver told the truth?

The implications depend on what category people are in.

Non-LDS

Believing LDS

If Oliver Cowdery told the truth, then…

Jesus Christ lives and restored the gospel with modern revelation, additional ancient records that testify of Christ, Priesthood authority and ordinances, etc.

The Hill Cumorah/Ramah is in western New York and Joseph Smith translated the plates by means of the Urim and Thummim that came with the plates.

 

Oliver's testimony is significant because he was a "second witness." Even under the law of Moses, one witness was not enough. You had to have at least two. 

A single person who makes a claim may or may not be telling the truth. When two or more people claim to have seen or experienced the same thing, their testimony is far more credible and reliable. 

But obviously, two or more people can collude to lie, deceive, mislead, etc. 

That's why Oliver's credibility is so important.

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Oliver was a witness for key aspects of the Restoration: the translation of the Book of Mormon, the physical reality of the plates and the Urim and Thummim (the Nephite interpreters), the repository of records in the Hill Cumorah, the restoration of the Priesthood, and the restoration of keys in the Kirtland temple. It was Oliver, not Joseph, who ordained the first members of the Quorum of the Twelve, through whom most priesthood lineage flows; i.e., priesthood authority goes directly from Peter, James and John to Oliver to the Quorum of the Twelve.

So we ask ourselves, what if Oliver told the truth?

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We could write a long essay answering that question. Nonbelievers and believers both recognize the stakes in terms of translation of the Book of Mormon, restoration of the Priesthood and keys of gathering and temple covenants, etc. 

Because this blog is named "LetterVII" we will focus on what Oliver wrote in Letter VII. 

http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/90

Throughout his eight essays on Church history that he wrote in 1834-5, Oliver repeatedly distinguished between fact and speculation. In Letter VII, he declared it is a fact that the final battles of the Jaredites and Nephites took place in the mile-wide valley west of the hill in New York where Joseph obtained the plates; i.e., the Hill Cumorah/Ramah described in Mormon 6:6.

If Oliver told the truth, then there is no room for debate on the topic of Cumorah. We can know for certain that any model or theory of the setting of the Book of Mormon that puts Cumorah elsewhere cannot possibly be correct.

That leaves the field wide open for the innumerable theories of "Book of Mormon geography." 

Everyone can have a different opinion about that topic, as the article in the Gospel Topics section of the Church's website explains.

Key point: different theories about "Book of Mormon geography" are a separate issue from Cumorah.

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If Oliver told the truth, then everyone interested in the subject should adjust their thinking about the Book of Mormon accordingly.

Jaredites: For example, critics observe that there is no possibility that 2 million people died at that hill in New York. And we agree, because the text never says or implies anything of the sort.

Yet look at this chart from BYU Studies:

John W. Welch's chart at BYU Studies

https://byustudies.byu.edu/online-book/charting-the-book-of-mormon/chart-138-the-two-final-battles

I've been curious about the origin of the 2 million claim. The current heading to Chapter 15 may be misleading people because it is written in the present tense, but the actual text is past tense.

Heading to Ether 15: "Millions of the Jaredites are slain in battle"

Text (Ether 15:2): "there had been slain by the sword already nearly two millions of his people" 

We can all see that the "two millions" had been killed prior to the time when Coriantumr "began to remember the words" of Ether. Coriantumr's recollection took place years before the final battle at Ramah. Verse 6 relates a battle, followed by a retreat, followed by another battle in which Coriantumr was wounded. Then they spent four years gathering the people before the final conflict at Ramah. And if we extrapolate backward from the enumeration of survivors, it appears there were only a few thousand, less than 10,000, who died at Ramah. 

Which is consistent with the archaeology in the area.

And which prompts us to revisit Coriantumr's recollection. The text never says "two millions" were killed in one battle. It merely says they were killed "by the sword." Back in chapter 13:18, we see that "there were many people who were slain by the sword of those secret combinations." In 14:4, "many thousands fell by the sword." This history of Jaredite warfare stretched back many generations. Jared's own great-grandson, Corihor, rebelled and raised an army. If, as seems likely from the text, Coriantumr was reflecting back on the history of his people over 33+ generations, the number of people killed "by the sword" annually would number in a few thousand, which again is not inconsistent with known archaeology.

Nephites. We can pursue similar analysis of the text and relevant extrinsic evidence (archaeology, anthropology, geology, geography, etc.) to corroborate what Oliver taught. See, e.g., 

https://www.mobom.org/church-history-issues

and

https://www.mobom.org/scientific-evidence

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Why do certain LDS scholars reject what Oliver taught?

Despite their acceptance of most of what Oliver testified about, certain scholars at BYU, the Church History Department, Book of Mormon Central (aka Scripture Central), the InterpreterMeridian MagazineBYU Studies, etc., have been adamant that Oliver Cowdery was wrong about Cumorah. (Most of the same scholars teach that he was wrong about the translation, too, but that's a separate topic.)

These scholars teach their students, readers and followers that Oliver was merely speculating when he wrote that it is a fact that the hill in New York is actually Cumorah/Ramah. 

They also teach that corroborating historical sources from Lucy Mack Smith, David Whitmer, Parley P. Pratt. Brigham Young, Heber C. Kimball, and Joseph himself were all wrong, having been misled by Oliver (or whomever misled Oliver in the first place).

They cite two main reasons. 

1. M2C (the Mesoamerican/two-Cumorahs theory). Certain modern LDS scholars reject what Oliver said about Cumorah and teach their students that Oliver was wrong because their theory of the setting of the Book of Mormon requires them to put Cumorah in southern Mexico. They consider Oliver's statement in Letter VII to be "manifestly absurd."

In the memorable words of John Sorenson (co-founder of FARMS), 

"There remain Latter-day Saints who insist that the final destruction of the Nephites took place in New York, but any such idea is manifestly absurd. Hundreds of thousands of Nephites traipsing across the Mississippi Valley to New York, pursued (why?) by hundred of thousands of Lamanites, is a scenario worthy only of a witless sci-fi movie, not of history." 

Mormon's Codex, p. 688.

This remains the position of the founders, officers, employees, affiliates, volunteers, donors, and followers of Scripture Central. 

They advocate it so strongly that they won't tolerate, let alone acknowledge, any discussion of evidence or argument that supports and corroborates what Oliver taught about Cumorah.

Those of us who still believe what the prophets have taught about Cumorah find it "manifestly absurd" to elevate a mere theory--M2C--above the teachings of the prophets. But we're fine with people believing whatever they want.

We're all aware of the evidence cited in favor of M2C. M2C scholars have accumulated plenty of "correspondences" between Mesoamerica and their interpretation of the Book of Mormon. That's why Mormon's Codex is a thick book. Other M2C scholars have added to the list. Some now call these "convergences" instead of "correspondences." We've fine with people promoting M2C if they want, but we're also fine with people pointing out how these "correspondences" and "convergences" are illusory in the sense that they are fairly ubiquitous in human societies everywhere, and if the reason these scholars are focusing on Mesoamerica is because the prophets have said the events took place somewhere in the Americas, then what rational basis is there for rejecting the teachings of the same prophets about Cumorah?

We just encourage people to make informed decisions. After all, Latter-day Saints cannot knowingly reject the teachings of the prophets (including Oliver Cowdery) when they don't even know what those teachings are.

We can all see that M2C is supported largely by keeping Latter-day Saints ignorant of (i) the teachings of the prophets about Cumorah and (ii) the evidence that corroborates those teachings.

Which brings us back to the question, what if Oliver told the truth after all?

Everyone should have an answer to that question when asked.

2. The First Vision problem.

Lately, certain LDS scholars have sought to discredit Oliver's testimony because he didn't mention the First Vision in his eight essays about early Church history. I realize that looks like a stretch (because it is), but some people take it as a serious objection to Oliver's credibility and reliability, so let's discuss it.

Key point: Oliver's failure to mention the First Vision is not any kind of statement or implication that the First Vision did not occur. How would Oliver know anyway? 

In our day, lots of people focus on the First Vision, pro and con. But Joseph didn't even tell his own mother about it. He apparently told one minister, was rebuked for that, and didn't mention it again for years. It didn't become a point of emphasis until his history was published in the Times and Seasons in 1842. And it wasn't even mentioned in General Conference until 1872. It was rarely mentioned in General Conference until the 1920s. Lately, we hear often about the First Vision, but that's irrelevant to the situation during the period when Oliver was writing. 

As far as I know, Oliver Cowdery never commented in writing about the First Vision, which makes sense because he obviously wasn't there for it. He wasn't a witness. Oliver didn't even mention it when he published eight essays on Church history in 1834-5. Because we know Joseph assisted with those essays, we infer that Joseph didn't think the First Vision was important enough to mention. And that makes sense because lots of people have claimed to see God. Not only Christians, and not only Joseph's contemporaries, but people around the world in all ages. 

Those scholars who question Oliver's reliability and credibility because he didn't include the First Vision in the eight essays need to explain why they are applying an anachronistic test. Because Joseph wasn't speaking publicly about the First Vision, why should anyone expect Oliver to be the first to publish it? What if Joseph never told Oliver about it? Or, if he did, what if he asked him not to write about it? 

Then there's the reality that Joseph had the eight essays copied into his own journal as part of his life history, without editing for omissions or errors. And that Joseph approved the republication of the eight essays, without additions or subtractions, in the Times and Seasons and Gospel Reflector (and, by implication, in the Millennial Star and The Prophet).  

We can all read Oliver's essays to see how closely Joseph was involved. For example, when describing the night when Moroni first appeared, Oliver wrote:

In this situation hours passed unnumbered—how many or how few I know not, neither is he able to inform me; but supposes it must have been eleven or twelve, and perhaps later, as the noise and bustle of the family, in retiring, had long since ceased.

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/66

We can all see that at several places in the essays, Oliver quoted what Moroni told Joseph Smith, which could have come only from Joseph directly. Even when the essays were copied into Joseph's journal, Joseph made no changes or corrections to these quotations. That implies Oliver accurately reported what Joseph told him about Moroni's visits.

It's no reflection on Oliver's reliability or credibility that he did not write about the First Vision, either because Joseph (i) didn't tell him about it or (ii) asked him not to.



 



Tuesday, September 16, 2025

Countdown to Cumorah - September 16 - two departments

One question about Cumorah is the difference between (i) Moroni's stone box that contained the plates, the Urim and Thummim, and the breast plate, and (ii) the repository of Nephite records that contained the original plates and other artifacts, including the sword of Laban and the Liahona.

In 1866 Orson Pratt explained that there were two departments in the hill.

The Hill Cumorah is situated in western New York between the villages of Palmyra and Canandaigua about four miles from the former. It is celebrated as the ancient depository of the sacred gold plates from which the Book of Mormon was translated. Cumorah was the name by which the hill was designated in the days of the Prophet Moroni who deposited the plates about four hundred and twenty years after the birth of Christ.

The prophet Mormon, the father of Moroni, had been entrusted with all the sacred records of his forefathers engraved on metallic plates. New plates were made by Mormon on which he wrote, from the more ancient books, an abridged history of the nation, incorporating therewith many revelations, prophecies, the Gospel, &c. 

These new plates were given to Moroni to finish the history. And all the ancient plates Mormon deposited in Cumorah, about three hundred and eighty-four years after Christ. When Moroni, about thirty-six years after, made the deposit of the book entrusted book entrusted to him, he was, without doubt inspired to select a department of the hill separate from the great sacred depository of the numerous volumes hid up by his father. 

The particular place in the hill, where Moroni secreted the book, was revealed, by the angel, to the Prophet Joseph Smith, to whom the volume was delivered in September, A.D. 1827. But the grand repository of all the numerous records of the ancient nations of the western continent, was located in another department of the hill, and its contents under the charge of holy angels, until the day should come for them to be transferred to the sacred temple of  Zion.

https://www.mobom.org/two-departments-in-cumorah

Orson Pratt, Brigham Young, Wilford Woodruff, Heber C. Kimball and others explained that Mormon's repository (Mormon 6:6) was in the same Hill Cumorah in New York from which Joseph obtained the plates from Moroni. There were two departments in the hill. Moroni's stone box was in one location, while the repository of Nephite records was in another location. I've provided the references plenty of times.

Letter VII explained this first, though.

Mormon, "by divine appointment, abridged from those records, in his own style and language, a short account of the more important and prominent items, from the days of Lehi to his own time, after which he deposited, as he says, on the 529th page, all the records in this same hill, Cumorah and after gave his small record to his son Moroni, who, as appears from the same, finished, after witnessing the extinction of his people as a nation."

Here's the link from Joseph  Smith's own history: http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/91
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Those who are familiar with the two sets of plates scenario will recognize that Oliver is telling us about that here as well. Oliver says Mormon gave "his small record" to Moroni. Mormon's "small record" consisted of the abridgment, "in his own style and language." Mormon had deposited all of the original records in the hill Cumorah in New York. (Mormon 4:23 and 6:6) 

The abridged records are the ones Joseph took to Harmony, where he translated them all (except the sealed portion), through the last leaf (the Title Page). These are the plates that Oliver helped to translate, but the Lord promised him that there were other records he could assist to translate (D&C 9:2).

In the next revelation, the Lord explained what those other records were. D&C 10:41, the Lord tells Joseph he has to translate the engravings on the plates of Nephi to replace the lost 116 pages.

The plates of Nephi were not abridged. They were original records. Consequently, it is not only the title page and all the other evidence that informs us that Joseph did not have the plates of Nephi in Harmony, but here, Oliver tells us the same thing.

Mormon did not give any original plates to Moroni.

Joseph did not get the plates of Nephi from Moroni's stone box. He never had them in Harmony. He didn't get them until he arrived in Fayette.

We just have to pay close attention to understand what Oliver is saying, but it's as clear as words can be.
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Monday, September 15, 2025

Countdown to Cumorah - September 15




"I think I am justified in saying that this is the highest hill for some distance round, and I am certain that its appearance, as it rises so suddenly from a plain on the north, must attract the notice of the traveller as he passes by.

"At about one mile west rises another ridge of less height, running parallel with the former, leaving a beautiful vale between. The soil is of the first quality for the country, and under a state of cultivation, which gives a prospect at once imposing, when one reflects on the fact, that here, between these hills, the entire power and national strength of both the Jaredites and Nephites were destroyed.

"By turning to the 529th and 530th pages of the book of Mormon120 you will read Mormon’s account of the last great struggle of his people, as they were encamped round this hill Cumorah....

"From the top of this hill, Mormon, with a few others, after the battle, gazed with horror upon the mangled remains of those who, the day before, were filled with anxiety, hope or doubt. A few had fled to the South, who were hunted down by the victorious party, and all who would not deny the Saviour and his religion, were put to death. Mormon himself, according to the record of his son Moroni, was also slain....

"This hill, by the Jaredites, was called Ramah: by it, or around it pitched the famous army of Coriantumr their tents."

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/90





Sunday, September 14, 2025

Countdown to Cumorah - September 14 - hymns

Next Sunday, in connection with the rededication of Cumorah, every one of the 30,000 plus units in the Church will (or should) sing a hymn about Cumorah. (Or at least in those areas where the hymn is in the hymnbook, which is most of them.) 

The best-known hymn, "An Angel from on High," explicitly corroborates Joseph Smith's explanation that Moroni told him the record was in the hill Cumorah not far from his home. Joseph learned the name of the hill before he ever went to the hill to see the plates.

But this isn't the only hymn that corroborates what Joseph said.

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In July 1830, a revelation given though Joseph Smith, Jr., included this direction to his wife Emma.

11 And it shall be given thee, also, to make a selection of sacred hymns, as it shall be given thee, which is pleasing unto me, to be had in my church.

12 For my soul delighteth in the song of the heart; yea, the song of the righteous is a prayer unto me, and it shall be answered with a blessing upon their heads.

(Doctrine and Covenants 25:11–12)

Her 1835 compilation included the text of 90 hymns, 35 of which were written by Latter-day Saints. The hymnal used by Latter-day Saints today contains 26 songs from the original, including “The Spirit of God” and “I Know That My Redeemer Lives.”

Emma's hymnal

Hymn 16 related the account later corroborated by Lucy Mack Smith and Joseph Smith himself (D&C 128:2) that when Moroni first visited Joseph Smith, he told him the record was deposited in the hill Cumorah not far from his house.

Joseph learned directly from Moroni that the name of the hill was Cumorah before he even went to the hill the first time.

HYMN 16. P. M.
 
1 An angel came down from the mansions of glory,
And told that a record was hid in Cumorah,
Containing the fulness of Jesus’s gospel;
And also the cov’nant to gather his people.

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/collection-of-sacred-hymns-1835/24

[For an explanation of the various Church hymnals, see https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/training/library/hymns/history-of-hymnals?lang=eng]

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In 1979, then Elder Gordon B. Hinckley spoke in General Conference about another hymn that related the account of Cumorah.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1979/10/an-angel-from-on-high-the-long-long-silence-broke?lang=eng

We often sing in our congregations a favorite hymn—the words were written well over a century ago by Parley P. Pratt (see Hymns, no. 224). They represent his declaration of the miraculous coming forth of a remarkable book. Exactly 150 years ago this fall that book was first being set in type and run on a press in Palmyra, New York.

Permit me to tell you how Parley Pratt came to know of the book about which he wrote these words.

The words of the hymn reiterate Emma's hymn #16 and D&C 128:20; i.e., that Moroni told Joseph that first night they met that the record was deposited in the hill Cumorah.

This hymn, "An Angel from on High," has been translated into the major languages around the world.

At the link below, you can see the hymn and the numerous translations.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/music/songs/an-angel-from-on-high?lang=eng

This hymn was included in the second hymnbook, the 1840 Manchester Hymnal, and every subsequent hymnal produced by the Church. 

1840 Manchester Hymnal


1.

An angel from on high

The long, long silence broke;

Descending from the sky,

These gracious words he spoke:

Lo! in Cumorah’s lonely hill

A sacred record lies concealed.

Lo! in Cumorah’s lonely hill

A sacred record lies concealed.

2.

Sealed by Moroni’s hand,

It has for ages lain

To wait the Lord’s command,

From dust to speak again.

It shall again to light come forth

To usher in Christ’s reign on earth.

It shall again to light come forth

To usher in Christ’s reign on earth.

3.

It speaks of Joseph’s seed

And makes the remnant known

Of nations long since dead,

Who once had dwelt alone.

The fulness of the gospel, too,

Its pages will reveal to view.

The fulness of the gospel, too,

Its pages will reveal to view.

4.

The time is now fulfilled,

The long-expected day;

Let earth obedience yield

And darkness flee away.

Remove the seals; be wide unfurled

Its light and glory to the world.

Remove the seals; be wide unfurled

Its light and glory to the world.

5.

Lo! Israel filled with joy

Shall now be gathered home,

Their wealth and means employ

To build Jerusalem,

While Zion shall arise and shine

And fill the earth with truth divine.

While Zion shall arise and shine

And fill the earth with truth divine.

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Friday, September 12, 2025

Countdown to Cumorah - September 12, 2025

When David was interviewed by Orson Pratt and Joseph F. Smith in 1877, David recounted his experience with divine messenger while on the road to his home with Joseph and Oliver from Harmony, PA.

Joseph had given the abridged plates to the messenger before leaving Harmony. When they encountered the messenger on the road, David offered to give him a ride, but the messenger declined, saying he was going to Cumorah.

David remembered the encounter because it was the first time he heard the word Cumorah and he didn't know what it meant.

Here is an illustrated version of the events. In the next installment, we'll look at the actual historical accounts.















David Whitmer takes Joseph and Oliver to Fayette in June.










Exhibit in the Church History Museum in Salt Lake City, Utah












Thursday, September 11, 2025

Cumorah Countdown - September 11 - historic sites

The upcoming dedication of the Hill Cumorah in New York is an ideal time to learn about and share the historical record about Cumorah. This series of posts contributes to that effort.

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The discussion below about Cumorah was posted on ldshistoricalnarratives.com but is reposted here with some edits as part of the countdown to the dedication of Cumorah in September 2025.

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There are awesome websites about Church History locations. They offer excellent resources. However, the content needs some work to make it more accurate and to better inform readers.

This is the main page:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/history/sites?lang=eng

Here's the page for New York/Pennsylvania:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/history/sites/new-york-and-pennsylvania?lang=eng

It has an excellent overview map.

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The page for the Book of Mormon fortunately portrays the stone box fairly accurately, without the "sword of Laban" that some people claim was in there, contrary to what Joseph and Oliver said.  

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Lucy Mack Smith reported what Moroni told Joseph that first night. 

the record is on a side hill on the Hill of Cumorah 3 miles from this place remove the Grass and moss and you will find a large flat stone pry that up and you will find the record under it laying on 4 pillars

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/lucy-mack-smith-history-1844-1845/41

Accordingly when the time arrived he went to the place appointed and removed the moss and grass from the surface of the rock and then pryed up the flat stone according to the directions which he had received he then discovered the plates laying on on 4 pillars in the inside of the box

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/lucy-mack-smith-history-1844-1845/44

In the photograph above, the stone is rounded, which would make it more obvious. Joseph wouldn't need to remove the grass and moss to find it. Lucy's description ("a large flat stone") makes more sense, but her account has been largely ignored.

Which brings up another point.

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The page for Cumorah needs work. Here are my suggestions for improvement and accuracy:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/locations/hill-cumorah?lang=eng

Original in blue, my comments in red, proposed changes in green.


Original

Comments

Hill Cumorah in Manchester, New York, is the place where Joseph Smith met annually with the angel Moroni from 1823 to 1827 and obtained the gold plates from which the Book of Mormon would be translated.

 

This is accurate but incomplete and thus misleading. It leaves readers without an answer to the obvious question: "Why is this hill named Cumorah?" 

It's not a difficult question to answer. 

Proposed emendation. Add the following sentence:

The hill is called "Cumorah" because that is how Moroni identified it when he first visited Joseph in September 1823.

The events that took place at the Hill Cumorah were foundational to the establishment of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 

Directed by the angel Moroni, Joseph Smith found the golden plates deposited in the hill on September 22, 1823.

Proposed emendation: Add the following in the narrative or in a footnote:

Joseph's mother explained what Moroni told him that night: "the record is on a side hill on the Hill of Cumorah 3 miles from this place remove the Grass and moss and you will find a large flat stone pry that up and you will find the record under it laying on 4 pillars

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/lucy-mack-smith-history-1844-1845/41

Joseph then met the angel there on the same date for the next three years until he was finally allowed to obtain the plates on September 22, 1827.

Joseph met Moroni on at least one other occasion that was significant.

Proposed emendation: Add the following in the narrative or in a footnote :

Joseph's mother related one of Joseph's encounters with Moroni: "as I passed by the hill of Cumorah, where the plates are, the angel of the Lord met me and said, that I had not been engaged enough in the work of the Lord; that the time had come for the record to <be> brought forth; and, that I must be up and doing, and set myself about the things which God had commanded me to do."

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/lucy-mack-smith-history-1845/111

From those plates, Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon by the gift and power of God.

This incomplete paraphrase of what Joseph actually said omits an essential part of the narrative Joseph and Oliver gave us.

Proposed emendation. Delete the sentence and replace it with what Joseph actually said, such as one of these:

Joseph explained that "I obtained them [the plates] and the Urim and Thummim with them, by the means of which I translated the plates and thus came the Book of Mormon." 

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/elders-journal-july-1838/11

Joseph explained that “With the records was found a curious instrument which the ancients called “Urim and Thummim,” which consisted of two transparent stones set in the rim of a bow fastened to a breastplate.

Through the medium of the Urim and Thummim I translated the record by the gift, and power of God.”

(Times and Seasons III.9:707 ¶5–6)

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/times-and-seasons-1-march-1842/5

 

The site includes a variety of trails, the Angel Moroni Monument, and a visitors’ center.

 

Although it is commonly known as the Hill Cumorah, this name was not used sometime after the pivotal events of 1823–1827.

This confusing sentence appears to be missing a word. The historians apparently meant to write "this name was not used until sometime after the pivotal events of 1823–1827." 

But if that is what they meant to write, then the sentence is misleading because there are no known documents from 1823-1827 regarding the plates, the hill, Moroni, the First Vision, or any other Restoration events. 

To be consistent, historians would also observe that "the name "Moroni" was not used until sometime after the pivotal events of 1823-1827." Instead, relying on retrospective accounts, they state the dates of Moroni's visit as a fact. Which is fine.

But to be consistent, they should also state as a fact that it was Moroni who identified the hill as Cumorah in the first place. 

Everything we know about this time period was recorded retrospectively. For example, the claim that Joseph met Moroni in September 1827 is based on retrospective accounts. 

To claim that the name "Cumorah" was not used because there are no known contemporaneous documents is to also claim that none of the other Restoration events took place because there is no known contemporaneous documentation.  

We assume people talked about these events at the time they occurred. They just didn't write anything down until later. Historians rely on Lucy Mack Smith's accounts as the best, and often only, source of information about Joseph Smith's life before people began recording events contemporaneously.  [Even the New Testament was written from memory long after the events described.]

The selective omission of "Cumorah" from the historical record reflects a policy to promote modern ideological theories, at the expense of accurately informing people about the historical record. 

Proposed emendation. Replace this confusing sentence with the following. 

The hill is commonly known as the Hill Cumorah because that is what Moroni called it when he first visited Joseph Smith. Oliver Cowdery explained that it was a fact that this is the same hill referenced in Mormon 6:6. 

http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/90  

 

In the latter half of the nineteenth century, many residents of Wayne and Ontario Counties referred to it as “Gold Bible Hill” and “Mormon Hill.”

The relevance of this sentence is unclear, but it obfuscates the historical reality that Joseph's contemporaries all referred to the hill as Cumorah as early as 1829.

Proposed emendation. Add the following sentence.

Although early Church members including Brigham Young and Heber C. Kimball, who lived in the area, referred to the hill as Cumorah, in the latter half of the nineteenth century, many residents of Wayne and Ontario Counties referred to it as "Gold Bible Hill" and "Mormon Hill." The Church acquired the Hill Cumorah in 1928 and restored the name Cumorah, by which it is still known today. 

However, many early members of the Church, including some of Joseph Smith’s closest friends and family members, referred to the hill as “Cumorah” at various times in Joseph Smith’s lifetime.

While technically accurate, this is misleading because it implies these "early members of the Church" invented the term or adopted a false narrative. Historians should explain that Lucy Mack Smith related what Moroni told Joseph the first night, that Joseph referred to the hill as Cumorah even before he got the plates, that Oliver Cowdery explained it was Moroni who called the hill Cumorah, that Oliver declared it is a fact that the New York Cumorah is the same as the Cumorah/Ramah mentioned in the text, that David Whitmer met the messenger who had the plates and was going to Cumorah before going to Fayette, etc.

Proposed emendation. Replace the sentence with the following. 

Many early members of the Church, including some of Joseph Smith's closest friends and family members, related accounts that affirmed Moroni's identification of the hill as Cumorah. 

This is likely because Moroni, the Book of Mormon’s final author and the angel who met with Joseph Smith, wrote that he would “hide up the record in the earth” once he had finished adding a few words of his own (see Mormon 8:4, 14).

This speculative sentence should be omitted because there are zero historical documents that state, imply, or even suggest that this is the reason why Joseph and his contemporaries referred to the hill as Cumorah. Instead, the historical references indicate that it was Moroni himself who identified the hill as Cumorah, along with the messenger to whom Joseph gave the plates before leaving Harmony (whom Joseph identified as one of the Three Nephites).

Proposed emendation. Delete the sentence.

Since this passage follows Moroni’s account of the great final battle between the Nephites and Lamanites, which occurred at a hill called Cumorah, many assumed that Moroni buried the plates in the same hill (see Mormon 8:2–4) and it was there that Joseph later received the record.

This speculative sentence should be omitted because there are zero historical documents that state, imply, or even suggest that this is the reason why Joseph and his contemporaries referred to the hill as Cumorah. To the contrary, President Cowdery stated the New York Cumorah/Ramah was a fact, not an assumption, inference, or interpretation.

Proposed emendation. Delete the sentence. 

One of Joseph Smith’s later letters likewise refers to the “glad tiding from Cumorah” and the visit of “Moroni, an angel from heaven” (Doctrine and Covenants 128:20).

This is subtle editing that most readers probably would not notice. By changing the word order and omitting part of the scripture, the historians have changed the meaning of what Joseph wrote here. The actual sentence demonstrates that Joseph learned the name Cumorah from Moroni before he received the plates. 

Moroni told him about "the book to be revealed." IOW, as his mother and others explained, Joseph reported that Moroni identified Cumorah when the book was yet to be revealed; i.e., before he first went to see the plates.

Proposed emendation. Replace the edited quotation with the full quotation the way Joseph wrote it. 

Glad tidings from Cumorah! Moroni, an angel from heaven, declaring the fulfilment of the prophets—the book to be revealed. (Doctrine and Covenants 128:20)

While the Church “does not take a position on the specific geographic locations of Book of Mormon events in the ancient Americas,” records kept by Joseph Smith and his contemporaries make it clear that this hill is the place where Joseph Smith met with Moroni and where Joseph received the plates containing the Book of Mormon (see Gospel Topics: Book of Mormon Geography).

The entry on Book of Mormon Geography does not mention Cumorah. As such, it retains the teachings of the prophets from the beginning because they always emphasized two things: (i) Cumorah is in New York and (ii) we don't know the location of the other events in the New World.

Proposed emendation. Replace the sentence with this. 

While the Church “does not take a position on the specific geographic locations of Book of Mormon events in the ancient Americas,” the prophets have consistently taught two things: (i) Cumorah/Ramah is in New York and (ii) we don't know the location of the other events in the New World. Additionally, retrospective records kept by Joseph Smith and his contemporaries make it clear that this hill is the place where Joseph Smith met with Moroni and where Joseph received the plates containing the Book of Mormon (see Gospel Topics: Book of Mormon Geography).


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Hill Cumorah

Hill Cumorah in Manchester, New York, is the place where Joseph Smith met annually with the angel Moroni from 1823 to 1827 and obtained the gold plates from which the Book of Mormon would be translated.

This is accurate but incomplete and thus misleading. It leaves readers without an answer to the obvious question: "Why is this hill named Cumorah?" 

It's not a difficult question to answer. 

Proposed emendation. Add the following sentence:

The hill is called "Cumorah" because that is how Moroni identified it when he first visited Joseph in September 1823.



The events that took place at the Hill Cumorah were foundational to the establishment of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Directed by the angel Moroni, Joseph Smith found the golden plates deposited in the hill on September 22, 1823. 
Proposed emendation: Add the following in the narrative or in a footnote:
Joseph's mother explained what Moroni told him that night: "the record is on a side hill on the Hill of Cumorah 3 miles from this place remove the Grass and moss and you will find a large flat stone pry that up and you will find the record under it laying on 4 pillars
Joseph then met the angel there on the same date for the next three years until he was finally allowed to obtain the plates on September 22, 1827. 
Joseph met Moroni on at least one other occasion that was significant.
Proposed emendation: Add the following in the narrative or in a footnote :
Joseph's mother related one of Joseph's encounters with Moroni: "as I passed by the hill of Cumorah, where the plates are, the angel of the Lord met me and said, that I had not been engaged enough in the work of the Lord; that the time had come for the record to <​be​> brought forth; and, that I must be up and doing, and set myself about the things which God had commanded me to do."
From those plates, Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon by the gift and power of God.
This incomplete paraphrase of what Joseph actually said omits an essential part of the narrative Joseph and Oliver gave us. It is better for people to see what they actually said.

Proposed emendation. Delete the last sentence and replace it with what Joseph actually said, such as one of these:

Joseph explained that "I obtained them [the plates] and the Urim and Thummim with them, by the means of which I translated the plates and thus came the Book of Mormon." 


With the records was found a curious instrument which the ancients called “Urim and Thummim,” which consisted of two transparent stones set in the rim of a bow fastened to a breastplate.

Through the medium of the Urim and Thummim I translated the record by the gift, and power of God.

(Times and Seasons III.9:707 ¶5–6)

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/times-and-seasons-1-march-1842/5

The site includes a variety of trails, the Angel Moroni Monument, and a visitors’ center.
No changes suggested.
Although it is commonly known as the Hill Cumorah, this name was not used sometime after the pivotal events of 1823–1827. 
This confusing sentence appears to be missing a word. The historians apparently meant to write "this name was not used until sometime after the pivotal events of 1823–1827." 

But if that is what they meant to write, then the sentence is misleading because there are no known documents from 1823-1827 regarding the plates, the hill, Moroni, the First Vision, or any other Restoration events. 

To be consistent, historians would also observe that "the name "Moroni" was not used until sometime after the pivotal events of 1823-1827." Instead, relying on retrospective accounts, they state the dates of Moroni's visit as a fact. Which is fine.

But to be consistent, they should also state as a fact that it was Moroni who identified the hill as Cumorah in the first place. 

Everything we know about this time period was recorded retrospectively. For example, the claim that Joseph met Moroni in September 1827 is based on retrospective accounts. 

To claim that the name "Cumorah" was not used because there are no known contemporaneous documents is to also claim that none of the other Restoration events took place because there is no known contemporaneous documentation.  

We assume people talked about these events at the time they occurred. They just didn't write anything down until later. Historians rely on Lucy Mack Smith's accounts as the best, and often only, source of information about Joseph Smith's life before people began recording events contemporaneously.  [Even the New Testament was written from memory long after the events described.]

The selective omission of "Cumorah" from the historical record reflects a policy to promote modern ideological theories, at the expense of accurately informing people about the historical record. 

Proposed emendation. Replace this confusing sentence with the following. 

The hill is commonly known as the Hill Cumorah because that is what Moroni called it when he first visited Joseph Smith. Oliver Cowdery explained that it was a fact that this is the same hill referenced in Mormon 6:6. 

http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/90  

In the latter half of the nineteenth century, many residents of Wayne and Ontario Counties referred to it as “Gold Bible Hill” and “Mormon Hill.” 
The relevance of this sentence is unclear, but it obfuscates the historical reality that Joseph's contemporaries all referred to the hill as Cumorah as early as 1829.

Proposed emendation. Add the following sentence.

Although early Church members including Brigham Young and Heber C. Kimball, who lived in the area, referred to the hill as Cumorah, in the latter half of the nineteenth century, many residents of Wayne and Ontario Counties referred to it as "Gold Bible Hill" and "Mormon Hill." The Church acquired the Hill Cumorah in 1928 and restored the name Cumorah, by which it is still known today. 
However, many early members of the Church, including some of Joseph Smith’s closest friends and family members, referred to the hill as “Cumorah” at various times in Joseph Smith’s lifetime. 
While technically accurate, this is misleading because it implies these "early members of the Church" invented the term or adopted a false narrative. Historians should explain that Lucy Mack Smith related what Moroni told Joseph the first night, that Joseph referred to the hill as Cumorah even before he got the plates, that Oliver Cowdery explained it was Moroni who called the hill Cumorah, that Oliver declared it is a fact that the New York Cumorah is the same as the Cumorah/Ramah mentioned in the text, that David Whitmer met the messenger who had the plates and was going to Cumorah before going to Fayette, etc.

Proposed emendation. Replace the sentence with the following. 

Many early members of the Church, including some of Joseph Smith's closest friends and family members, related accounts that affirmed Moroni's identification of the hill as Cumorah. 

 

This is likely because Moroni, the Book of Mormon’s final author and the angel who met with Joseph Smith, wrote that he would “hide up the record in the earth” once he had finished adding a few words of his own (see Mormon 8:4, 14). 
This speculative sentence should be omitted because there are zero historical documents that state, imply, or even suggest that this is the reason why Joseph and his contemporaries referred to the hill as Cumorah. Instead, the historical references indicate that it was Moroni himself who identified the hill as Cumorah, along with the messenger to whom Joseph gave the plates before leaving Harmony (whom Joseph identified as one of the Three Nephites).

Proposed emendation. Delete the sentence. 
Since this passage follows Moroni’s account of the great final battle between the Nephites and Lamanites, which occurred at a hill called Cumorah, many assumed that Moroni buried the plates in the same hill (see Mormon 8:2–4) and it was there that Joseph later received the record. 
This speculative sentence should be omitted because there are zero historical documents that state, imply, or even suggest that this is the reason why Joseph and his contemporaries referred to the hill as Cumorah. To the contrary, President Cowdery stated the New York Cumorah/Ramah was a fact, not an assumption, inference, or interpretation.

Proposed emendation. Delete the sentence. 
One of Joseph Smith’s later letters likewise refers to the “glad tiding from Cumorah” and the visit of “Moroni, an angel from heaven” (Doctrine and Covenants 128:20). 
This is subtle editing that most readers probably would not notice. By changing the word order and omitting part of the scripture, the historians have changed the meaning of what Joseph wrote here. The actual sentence demonstrates that Joseph learned the name Cumorah from Moroni before he received the plates. 

Moroni told him about "the book to be revealed." IOW, as his mother and others explained, Joseph reported that Moroni identified Cumorah when the book was yet to be revealed; i.e., before he first went to see the plates.

Proposed emendation. Replace the edited quotation with the full quotation the way Joseph wrote it. 

Glad tidings from Cumorah! Moroni, an angel from heaven, declaring the fulfilment of the prophets—the book to be revealed. (Doctrine and Covenants 128:20)

 

While the Church “does not take a position on the specific geographic locations of Book of Mormon events in the ancient Americas,” records kept by Joseph Smith and his contemporaries make it clear that this hill is the place where Joseph Smith met with Moroni and where Joseph received the plates containing the Book of Mormon (see Gospel Topics: Book of Mormon Geography).

The entry on Book of Mormon Geography does not mention Cumorah. As such, it retains the teachings of the prophets from the beginning because they always emphasized two things: (i) Cumorah is in New York and (ii) we don't know the location of the other events in the New World.

Proposed emendation. Replace the sentence with this. 

While the Church “does not take a position on the specific geographic locations of Book of Mormon events in the ancient Americas,” the prophets have consistently taught two things: (i) Cumorah/Ramah is in New York and (ii) we don't know the location of the other events in the New World. Additionally, retrospective records kept by Joseph Smith and his contemporaries make it clear that this hill is the place where Joseph Smith met with Moroni and where Joseph received the plates containing the Book of Mormon (see Gospel Topics: Book of Mormon Geography).